{"id":1122,"date":"2024-11-21T14:34:29","date_gmt":"2024-11-21T14:34:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecontenthive.be\/?page_id=1122"},"modified":"2025-02-24T13:42:20","modified_gmt":"2025-02-24T13:42:20","slug":"aflevering-8","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/thecontenthive.be\/en\/kruisbestuiving\/aflevering-8\/","title":{"rendered":"Aflevering #8"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"1122\" class=\"elementor elementor-1122\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-40756671 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"40756671\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-60b5eb3c elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"60b5eb3c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">aflevering #8<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20e7d6ed elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"20e7d6ed\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Social Media Copy &amp; SEO<\/h4>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-57bec2b0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"57bec2b0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Ik ga in gesprek met The Content Hive member Micha\u00ebl Goelen over het schrijven van captions voor sociale media, het belang van het gebruik van zoekwoorden en de relevantie van blogs voor je online zichtbaarheid.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-58c0cef3 elementor-view-default elementor-widget elementor-widget-icon\" data-id=\"58c0cef3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"icon.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-icon-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-icon\">\n\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-angle-double-down\" viewbox=\"0 0 320 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M143 256.3L7 120.3c-9.4-9.4-9.4-24.6 0-33.9l22.6-22.6c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0l96.4 96.4 96.4-96.4c9.4-9.4 24.6-9.4 33.9 0L313 86.3c9.4 9.4 9.4 24.6 0 33.9l-136 136c-9.4 9.5-24.6 9.5-34 .1zm34 192l136-136c9.4-9.4 9.4-24.6 0-33.9l-22.6-22.6c-9.4-9.4-24.6-9.4-33.9 0L160 352.1l-96.4-96.4c-9.4-9.4-24.6-9.4-33.9 0L7 278.3c-9.4 9.4-9.4 24.6 0 33.9l136 136c9.4 9.5 24.6 9.5 34 .1z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6ebe2ee6 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6ebe2ee6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2d5176b7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2d5176b7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div><p><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"49660\" data-end=\"52560\">Welkom bij aflevering 8 van Kruisbestuiving.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"53060\" data-end=\"55180\">Ik heb vandaag weer een member bij mij, Micha\u00ebl.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"56020\" data-end=\"56700\">Welkom. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"56940\" data-end=\"58020\">Kun je jezelf even voorstellen?<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"58640\" data-end=\"58960\">Zeker.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 0:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"59400\" data-end=\"67720\">Ik ben Micha\u00ebl, 26 jaar, en sinds een twee, drie tal jaar freelancer, copywriter eigenlijk specifiek.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"67720\" data-end=\"70660\">Bij Phraseline. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:12\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"72440\" data-end=\"75840\">Marketing gestudeerd, en nadien ook nog communicatie gestudeerd. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"76560\" data-end=\"77740\">Dus een zestal jaar gestudeerd.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"78740\" data-end=\"82940\">En nu ondertussen ook al twee, drie jaar nine-to-five binnen die sector.<\/span><\/span><\/div><p><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"84200\" data-end=\"84480\">Super. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"85000\" data-end=\"88560\">En heb je bepaalde projecten al gehad waar je extra trots op bent?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:29\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"88740\" data-end=\"90500\">Of waar je blij bent dat je daaraan mee mocht werken?<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"91060\" data-end=\"91980\">Op zich wel op Phraseline.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"92360\" data-end=\"98440\">Ik heb het altijd al van jongs af aan gehad dat ik een soort projectje, zo te noemen, van mezelf wou. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"99140\" data-end=\"100820\">Dat hoeft niet heel grootschalig te zijn. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:41\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"101200\" data-end=\"103260\">Dat is ook nooit echt het doel geweest.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"103980\" data-end=\"105100\">Ik wou wel zoiets van mezelf.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"105400\" data-end=\"109240\">Dus ik werkte, of ik werk heel graag, ook voor een baas, nine-to-five. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"110100\" data-end=\"111940\">Maar daarnaast wou ik dan iets van mezelf.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"112140\" data-end=\"113520\">Dat was al zo tijdens mijn studies. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"114540\" data-end=\"117760\">Ook het einde van mijn marketingstudie was bijvoorbeeld tijdens de eerste corona-lockdown w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 1:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"119380\" data-end=\"123260\">aardoor ik heel vaak thuis zat, heel veel tijd had om over dat soort zaken na te denken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"123980\" data-end=\"128180\">Toen begon het ook echt wel te borrelen om iets zelfstandigs te beginnen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"128320\" data-end=\"129120\">Een eigen projectje.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"129740\" data-end=\"132620\">Maar ik had eigenlijk totaal geen idee in wat, bijvoorbeeld.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"133020\" data-end=\"137840\">Dat is dan eigenlijk weer op een laag vuurtje gekomen met dan nog de vervolgopleiding te gaan studeren.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"138980\" data-end=\"146800\">Tot ik dan daar eigenlijk besefte van waarom ga ik niet in de praktijk toepassen wat ik hier nu gaandeweg mijn studies heb geleerd.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:27\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"146920\" data-end=\"151060\">En ook aan de hand van stages en studentenjobs heb geleerd in de praktijk.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"151060\" data-end=\"154780\">En daardoor kwam ik eigenlijk tot de conclusie marketing slash communicatie, w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"155640\" data-end=\"160320\">at ik nu dan eigenlijk ook als Phraseline zijnde en als mijn project dan doe.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:41\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"160660\" data-end=\"164420\">Dus enerzijds communicatie, copywriting voor klanten. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"164800\" data-end=\"169920\">En anderzijds het marketinggedeelte waarbij ik mezelf een beetje manage, om het zo te noemen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"170280\" data-end=\"171520\">Dus je moet zelf klanten gaan zoeken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"171760\" data-end=\"174080\">Je moet zelf je social media kanalen wel in orde hebben.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"174220\" data-end=\"178160\">Je moet papieren opvolgen, dat soort zaken, m<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 2:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"178560\" data-end=\"180740\">oet je allemaal zelf wel wat in orde brengen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:02\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"181900\" data-end=\"185920\">Dus dat is een beetje de mengeling tussen marketing en communicatie, wat ik dan doe voor klanten.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"186860\" data-end=\"188440\">En daar ben ik op zich wel trots op. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"188560\" data-end=\"190700\">En dat is iets waar ik wel heel veel voldoening uit haal ook.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"191160\" data-end=\"194620\">Ja, en er is geen ambitie om ooit volledig zelfstandigheid te worden?<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"195520\" data-end=\"199460\">Ik denk op termijn dat er sowieso wel kan van komen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"199900\" data-end=\"202580\">Is dat binnen twee jaar, is dat binnen vijf jaar, is dat binnen vijftien jaar?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:23\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"203120\" data-end=\"203560\">Geen idee.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"203840\" data-end=\"205800\">Zoals ik zei, omdat ik altijd iets van mezelf wou, e<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"205900\" data-end=\"207000\">n dat heb ik nu dan ook wel.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"207600\" data-end=\"210340\">Voorlopig ben ik er ook wel tevreden mee zoals het is.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"210880\" data-end=\"211800\">Maar zeg nooit nooit.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"212500\" data-end=\"217060\">Het kan heel snel gaan als je ergens een klant vindt die dan een andere klant kan aanreiken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"217760\" data-end=\"219640\">En als de bal aan het rollen gaat, you never know. <\/span><\/span>Maar voorlopig zitten we goed zoals we zijn.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"222600\" data-end=\"223340\">Ja, super.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"224460\" data-end=\"226720\">Heb je al bepaalde uitdagingen gehad?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"231500\" data-end=\"234180\">Ja, het is soms heel heftig.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"234680\" data-end=\"236320\">Zoals ik zei, je moet alles zelf doen, w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"236780\" data-end=\"238400\">ant ik ben dan op dat vlak alleen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 3:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"239200\" data-end=\"243620\">Je moet het ook na je fulltime job of in de weekend doen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"244320\" data-end=\"246260\">Je hebt ook je priv\u00e9leven, uiteraard.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"246720\" data-end=\"249180\">Dus het is soms veel ballen tegelijk omhoog houden. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"249700\" data-end=\"252720\">Op zich ook wel hetgeen wat ik er op voorhand van verwacht had.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:14\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"253640\" data-end=\"254640\">Dus ja, dat is wel iets.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"254920\" data-end=\"257540\">Dat geeft me ook net voldoening, omdat je met van alles tegelijk bezig bent. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"257779\" data-end=\"261320\">En je leert heel veel dingen bij gaandeweg.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"262140\" data-end=\"265040\">Dingen die je op de schoolbanken eigenlijk niet per se leert.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"265760\" data-end=\"267740\">Dat moet ik je als ondernemer uiteraard niet vertellen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:29\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"268640\" data-end=\"270900\">Dus ja, elke dag is het een beetje nieuw.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"271680\" data-end=\"275780\">Ik kijk er ook wel naar uit om de komende tijd ook te kijken wat dat brengt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"276000\" data-end=\"277060\">En wat ik daarvan kan leren.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"278340\" data-end=\"279720\">Dus het is op zich wel heel uitdagend.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"279860\" data-end=\"282040\">Vooral 9 to 5, en dan daarna, en in de weekends.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"283080\" data-end=\"288080\">Maar ik probeer ook wel gaandeweg structureel te gaan plannen en structureel te gaan werken,<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"> w<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"288780\" data-end=\"290660\">aardoor het ook wel haalbaar is.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"291500\" data-end=\"295420\">Ik weet, bijvoorbeeld voor mijn klanten zijn er heel vaak taken die elke maand terugkomen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 4:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"295940\" data-end=\"301260\">Dan kan ik ook wel in mijn persoonlijke agenda wel specifiek richtlijnen of richtdata gaan inplannen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:01\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"301440\" data-end=\"303800\">Dat ik weet van, dan ongeveer ga ik dat doen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"304140\" data-end=\"308860\">En als ik dan heel veel andere projecten zou aannemen diezelfde periode, ja, dan gaat het niet gaan.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"309260\" data-end=\"311220\">Dus dat weet ik van, dat is geblokkeerd. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"311440\" data-end=\"314460\">En ook priv\u00e9, dat ik dan probeer om dat wat vrij te houden.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"314680\" data-end=\"316520\">Om dan effectief die zaken te gaan doen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"317100\" data-end=\"318860\">Er kan altijd natuurlijk wel wat ingeschoven worden, w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"318860\" data-end=\"322300\">ant er zijn heel vaak zaken die last minute nog veranderen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:23\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"322840\" data-end=\"325000\">Ook priv\u00e9 dat er nog zaken bij komen of wegvallen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"325360\" data-end=\"327660\">Maar meestal komt dat elke maand wel zo wat terug.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"328360\" data-end=\"336680\">En ik merk wel, naarmate je er langer en langer in zit, dat dat structureel werken en dat vooruit plannen eigenlijk wel beter en beter lukt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"337680\" data-end=\"338860\">Omdat ik ook wel heel gestructureerd ben.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"338860\" data-end=\"340820\">Ik ben niet zo heel chaotisch of zo op dat vlak. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"341840\" data-end=\"344080\">Dus ik kan ook wel voor mezelf structureel werken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"344460\" data-end=\"347600\">Ik denk dat dat niet voor iedereen een gemakkelijk gegeven is.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"348520\" data-end=\"350760\">Maar ik heb het geluk dat dat bij mij wel zo is. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:51\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"351200\" data-end=\"352660\">En dat maakt het voor mij wel houdbaar om beide<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"353340\" data-end=\"354100\">\u00a0te combineren.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"354260\" data-end=\"354700\">Ja, klopt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"354780\" data-end=\"356920\">Dat is wel een groot pluspunt om te hebben als freelancer.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 5:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"357040\" data-end=\"358680\">Die structuur en time management.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"359520\" data-end=\"361660\">Ik heb al met freelancers samengewerkt die dat niet hadden e<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:02\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"361780\" data-end=\"364120\">n dan merk je dat daar gewoon chaos is. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"364320\" data-end=\"365680\">Dat deadlines niet gehaald worden. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:06\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"365800\" data-end=\"366720\">En dat is jammer, w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"367320\" data-end=\"372360\">ant daardoor wordt je kwaliteit als minder aanzien.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:12\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"372460\" data-end=\"373800\">Terwijl dat dan niet zo is.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"375340\" data-end=\"378560\">Ik denk dat ik 3,5 jaar in bijberoep heb gewerkt als freelancer.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"378860\" data-end=\"382940\">Dat was ook echt proppen om alles gedaan te krijgen in \u00e9\u00e9n week. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"383880\" data-end=\"392500\">Maar wat mij daar wel enorm bij heeft geholpen, is om per maand te bepalen hoeveel uur ik heb om in mijn bijberoep te werken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"393140\" data-end=\"396180\">En om inderdaad recurring projecten al in te vullen. Dan zie ik makkelijker h<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"398940\" data-end=\"401220\">oeveel uur ik nog over heb om extra kwanten aan te nemen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:41\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"401340\" data-end=\"402920\">En als die uren vol zitten, dan zitten ze vol.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"402920\" data-end=\"404320\">Dan is het voor de volgende maand.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"404460\" data-end=\"405000\">Ja, exact.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"406220\" data-end=\"408220\">Dus structuur als freelancer is heel belangrijk.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"408860\" data-end=\"409180\">Top.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"409460\" data-end=\"411080\">Ja, structuur i<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:51\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"411320\" data-end=\"412980\">n de mate van het mogelijk<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"> p<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"413080\" data-end=\"413800\">robeer je dat te doen, m<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"413920\" data-end=\"416420\">aar er zijn altijd wel last minute nog zaken die veranderen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 6:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"416640\" data-end=\"419420\">Waardoor je schema toch in de war geraakt e<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"419600\" data-end=\"422400\">n dat is nog een beetje improviseren.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"422700\" data-end=\"423280\">Ja, tuurlijk. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"423480\" data-end=\"426760\">In de markting komt er altijd wel een last minute opdracht.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"427020\" data-end=\"427380\">Ja, voil\u00e0.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"427740\" data-end=\"429840\">En dat is op zich ook wat ik net al zei.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"429940\" data-end=\"432300\">Dat houdt het ook wel heel interessant en spannend. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:12\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"432300\" data-end=\"434780\">Omdat je dan net ook een beetje&#8230;<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"434780\" data-end=\"436760\">De comfortzone is misschien een beetje overdreven.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"436840\" data-end=\"438440\">Maar toch zul je jezelf een beetje moeten uitdagen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"439520\" data-end=\"441160\">En dat maakt het net briljant.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:21\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"441380\" data-end=\"442220\">Ja, top.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"444100\" data-end=\"446200\">Je geeft aan dat je vooral copywriting doet. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"446480\" data-end=\"449380\">Heb je specifieke specialisaties binnen de copywriting?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"450120\" data-end=\"453780\">Ja, mijn focus ligt eigenlijk vooral op social media copy.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:34\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"454140\" data-end=\"455760\">Ook wel op website copy.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:37\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"456580\" data-end=\"459340\">Dus vooral wel het online gegeven. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:41\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"460900\" data-end=\"462400\">Ook bij mijn job die ik heb gehad.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"462440\" data-end=\"463760\">Ik heb al in de advertising gezeten.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"463900\" data-end=\"465280\">Ik heb al in communicatie gezeten. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"465920\" data-end=\"468320\">Daar kwam altijd wel een luikje social media bij.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"469120\" data-end=\"474960\">Dus daar heb ik gaandeweg, enerzijds met mijn opleiding die ik heb gedaan en anderzijds de praktijkervaringen op mijn jobs, <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 7:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"475520\" data-end=\"480080\">wel eigenlijk de expertise in verworven. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:01\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"481140\" data-end=\"485440\">En eigenlijk ook cursussen beginnen volgen, specifiek copywriting op dat soort gedeeltes.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:06\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"485640\" data-end=\"488800\">Om daar dan nu ook mijn klanten mee verder te kunnen helpen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"488800\" data-end=\"495520\">Ik weet bijvoorbeeld dat SEO, Search Engine Optimization, daar heel belangrijk bij is.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"496340\" data-end=\"504980\">Dat is iets waar ik ook meteen, als ik een briefing krijg van een klant die social media copy nodig heeft, is dat meteen iets waar ik voor mezelf al begin te kijken. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"505100\" data-end=\"506060\">Welke klant is het?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"506100\" data-end=\"506960\">Welke sector is het?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"507520\" data-end=\"510760\">Welke zoektermen zijn daar heel gangbaar?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"512240\" data-end=\"515400\">Om die dan eigenlijk zelf te gaan verwerken in mijn social media copy.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"516140\" data-end=\"526560\">Om dan eigenlijk een maand of twee later naar de klant te kunnen gaan en zeggen van kijk, we hebben nu vanaf twee maanden geleden die zoektermen eigenlijk verwerkt in jullie teksten. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"527280\" data-end=\"533440\">En we zien ook wel dat dat enerzijds ervoor gaat zorgen dat je dan bijvoorbeeld in Google ook hoger gaat ranken, om het zo te noemen.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"533620\" data-end=\"533880\">Ja, absoluut.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"534240\" data-end=\"539220\">Want het is enerzijds zo in Google dat bijvoorbeeld de zoekwoorden je hoger gaan doen plaatsen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 8:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"539300\" data-end=\"542020\">Maar je kunt ook anderzijds gaan adverteren op Google.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"542560\" data-end=\"544700\">Dat is evenzeer met die zoektermen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:05\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"545300\" data-end=\"547060\">Google Search Ads bijvoorbeeld dan.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"547160\" data-end=\"550300\">Dat leunt heel fel aan tegen SEO copywriting.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"550840\" data-end=\"559540\">Waardoor ik dan eigenlijk altijd ga voorstellen aan mijn klanten van dit zijn nu, ik zeg maar eens, tien zoektermen die in jullie sector of binnen jullie product heel gangbaar zijn. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"560280\" data-end=\"567000\">Ik kan bijvoorbeeld een blogpost of jullie website tekst aanpassen of schrijven waarin ik die zoektermen ga verwerken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:27\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"567160\" data-end=\"569800\">Ik ga jullie social media copy schrijven waarin die zoektermen zitten.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"570620\" data-end=\"577740\">Door dat te gaan combineren met dan eventueel Google Search Ads met die zoektermen in, gaat het elkaar eigenlijk een beetje versterken.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"578180\" data-end=\"581100\">Het gaat een totaalplaatje worden, om het zo te noemen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:41\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"581220\" data-end=\"582420\">Binnen Google dan weliswaar.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"583360\" data-end=\"587340\">Waardoor de klant eigenlijk hoger gaat te zien zal zijn in de Google zoekresultaten.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:48\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"588400\" data-end=\"592220\">Want ja, iedereen weet, pagina twee, pagina drie op Google wordt toch nooit bekeken.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"592360\" data-end=\"593120\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Klopt, klopt.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"593580\" data-end=\"595460\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Dus het is eigenlijk een beetje een verhaal dat elkaar versterkt. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 9:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"596460\" data-end=\"600100\">Plus dan ook, ja, consistent zijn op social media. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"600260\" data-end=\"602580\">Het is dan ook iets dat ik daarmee wel probeer door te trekken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"602580\" data-end=\"606560\">Dus ik zeg van, ik kan deze en deze zoektermen daarin verwerken. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"607040\" data-end=\"613840\">Maar het is ook wel belangrijk dat we dat echt afhankelijk van de keuze van de klant, twee keer per week, drie keer per week gaan posten, gaan publiceren.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"615580\" data-end=\"618840\">Ja, en de combinatie daarvan zorgt eigenlijk voor een totaalplaatje.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"619020\" data-end=\"619840\">Ja, ok\u00e9.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"620280\" data-end=\"621620\">En heb je zo tips?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"621760\" data-end=\"623560\">Want ik weet, captions schrijven voor s<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"623920\" data-end=\"625640\">ocial media posten is niet altijd even makkelijk.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"625760\" data-end=\"630140\">En dat is ook iets wat ik vaak klanten heel erg mee hoor struggelen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"630360\" data-end=\"631560\">Dat ze daar uren aan zitten. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"633120\" data-end=\"635920\">Uren vind ik heel erg weggegooide tijd.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:37\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"636540\" data-end=\"643900\">Heb je tips om dat proces te vermakkelijken en om te zorgen dat die captions echt goed werken bij je social media posts?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"644800\" data-end=\"646760\">Ja, dat hangt ook een beetje samen met die SEO.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"647040\" data-end=\"648180\">Ik merk dat zelf heel fel.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"648740\" data-end=\"652940\">Omdat ik eigenlijk voor ik ga beginnen schrijven, ga ik effectief een soort zoekwoordanalyse gaan doen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"653540\" data-end=\"657780\">En effectief gaan kijken van, ja, welke zoektermen zijn hier nu echt toepasbaar of gangbaar.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 10:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"658500\" data-end=\"660280\">En die ga ik er dan automatisch eigenlijk al in verwerken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:02\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"661540\" data-end=\"670480\">Het is altijd wel zo, zeker omdat je dan ook na een lange werkdag moet doen, dat je hoofd soms even vol zit, dat het schrijven niet automatisch heel vlot lukt. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"670680\" data-end=\"672280\">En dan durf ik op zich ook wel eens&#8230;<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"672940\" data-end=\"676020\">Misschien een beetje tegen mijn eigen winkel, maar zoals ChattyPT bijvoorbeeld.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"676020\" data-end=\"678540\">Ik denk, het is er, dus waarom zouden we het niet gebruiken? <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"679480\" data-end=\"681660\">Ik zou het nooit zomaar klakkeloos overnemen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"681940\" data-end=\"682560\">Uiteraard niet.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:23\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"682840\" data-end=\"684300\">Maar het kan wel een goede basis zijn.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"684840\" data-end=\"692160\">Omdat je dan op zich al een schone vorm hebt, een tekstvorm, die goed in \u00e9\u00e9n zit.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"692940\" data-end=\"701760\">Maar dan kun je daar ook nog specifiek die zoektermen, die jij dan zelf hebt opgezocht of gevonden, via allerhande analyses, die kun jij er dan in verwerken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"702340\" data-end=\"705780\">Waardoor je ook daar eigenlijk tot een totaalplaatje komt. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"706800\" data-end=\"709680\">En dan is dat wel iets waar de klanten meestal tevreden mee zijn.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"710020\" data-end=\"710620\">Ja, ja.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 11:51\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"710800\" data-end=\"723320\">Dan is het een combinatie van AI inschakelen voor een goede structuur, en anderzijds dan zelf ook effectief het onderzoek doen, de juiste termen te vinden, of zo de juiste hoek te vinden, zeg maar.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"724060\" data-end=\"728100\">Want daar is ChattyPT dan toch nog altijd wel heel computer in, robot in.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"728560\" data-end=\"741920\">Ze zeggen altijd, die opener moet dan heel specifiek zijn of heel persoonlijk zijn en moet direct zoiets een haak kunnen maken waardoor de lezer of de volger het verder gaat willen lezen of uiteindelijk dan een actie te gaan doen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"741920\" data-end=\"744920\">En daarin merk je dan bijvoorbeeld dat AI of andere&#8230;<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"745680\" data-end=\"750880\">ChatGPT bijvoorbeeld nog heel computer is en het menselijke ontbreekt daarvan nog wel wat.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"751500\" data-end=\"754040\">Maar daarvoor zijn wij als copywriters uiteindelijk nog&#8230; <\/span><\/span>Dus wij kunnen dan het vermenselijken.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:<span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"757800\" data-end=\"758780\">Ja, super.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"759500\" data-end=\"762120\">En heb je zo favoriete tools om je zoekwoordenonderzoek te doen?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"762780\" data-end=\"769980\">Eigenlijk is voor mij Google Search of het advertentie gedeeld door Google persoonlijk een hele goeie.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"769980\" data-end=\"774800\">Ik vind dat heel gebruikvriendelijk.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"776000\" data-end=\"777160\">Het is ook heel diepgaand.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 12:58\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"778160\" data-end=\"784320\">Je kunt zoektermen specifiek voor de sector, voor het product, maar dan evenzeer ook&#8230;<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"784320\" data-end=\"785180\">Ik ben bijvoorbeeld van Limburg.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:06\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"785560\" data-end=\"786700\">We zijn nu in Oost-Vlaanderen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:07\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"787260\" data-end=\"796860\">Ik kan bijvoorbeeld voor Phraseline in Limburg gaan kijken welke zoektermen zijn er hier in Oost-Vlaanderen gangbaar die bij ons in Limburg misschien iets minder gebruikt worden.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"797440\" data-end=\"800440\">Welke ik daar evenzeer dan wel zou kunnen gaan gebruiken. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"804200\" data-end=\"807120\">Anderzijds ook welke zoektermen worden gebruikt in advertenties.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"808100\" data-end=\"809680\">En hoe vaak wordt daar bijvoorbeeld op geklikt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"810320\" data-end=\"814020\">Dus je kunt ook zien in welke mate het ook effectief is.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"815640\" data-end=\"818060\">Dus ja, dat is voor mij persoonlijk een hele goeie.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"818680\" data-end=\"824620\">Ook in combinatie met Google Analytics om je eigen websiteverkeer bijvoorbeeld een beetje op te volgen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"824620\" data-end=\"826940\">Dan kun je goed zien wat werkt en wat niet. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"827360\" data-end=\"829140\">Het is een hele voor de hand liggende Google, m<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"829940\" data-end=\"831720\">aar voor mij persoonlijk wel een goeie.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"831960\" data-end=\"832840\">Ja, top. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"832960\" data-end=\"834060\">En ook gratis denk ik dan?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"834260\" data-end=\"835000\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Ja, klopt.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"835500\" data-end=\"838060\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Want de meeste SEO-tools zijn vrij duur.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 13:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"838600\" data-end=\"841620\">Dus als een klant daarin wil investeren, dan is dat natuurlijk&#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:02\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"841620\" data-end=\"846760\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Ik ben daarmee begonnen met Google zoekwoorden te onderzoeken via Hootsuite.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"847840\" data-end=\"849260\">Maar inderdaad, dat is nog betalend.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"850020\" data-end=\"858300\">Toen heb ik eigenlijk Google ontdekt, wat voor mij, als ik de kostenbaten vergeleek, om het zo te noemen, dan was Google eigenlijk perfect.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:<span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"858540\" data-end=\"859260\">Ja, top.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:21\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"861100\" data-end=\"864440\">Merk je verschil in lengte qua captions? <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"866000\" data-end=\"868960\">Werken korte captions beter of langere captions?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"870100\" data-end=\"873380\">Voor social media sowieso korte captions, denk ik.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:34\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"873680\" data-end=\"882000\">Ik heb ook al heel vaak op Instagrampagina&#8217;s of zo bijvoorbeeld bij andere bedrijven gezien of bij ondernemers gezien die dan zo&#8217;n lange caption hebben. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"882580\" data-end=\"885700\">Op zich helpt het niet om er dertig zoektermen in te gooien. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"885800\" data-end=\"889660\">Je kunt beter focussen op een drie-, viertal en daar een korte caption in verwerken. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"890360\" data-end=\"893440\">Omdat je vandaag de dag toch zoveel content mogelijkheden hebt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"893860\" data-end=\"896640\">Je kunt slides maken, je kunt van alles doen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 14:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"896880\" data-end=\"903100\">Dus dan lijkt het mij beter om lange captions te gaan vermijden en die net in je content zelf te gaan verwerken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"903980\" data-end=\"906640\">Omdat het dan visueel iets aantrekkelijker maakt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"907500\" data-end=\"913040\">Alsnog is de belangrijkste info over de belangrijkste zoektermen dan nog altijd terug te vinden in de korte caption.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"913460\" data-end=\"918340\">Dus volgens mij, sowieso voor social media is kort de way to go.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"920080\" data-end=\"925180\">Natuurlijk voor blogposts of website-teksten of nieuwsbrieven is een ander verhaal.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"925480\" data-end=\"929200\">Een nieuwsbrief kan \u00e9\u00e9n pagina lang zijn, maar kan evenzeer ook vijf pagina&#8217;s lang zijn. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"929860\" data-end=\"935740\">Dat hangt heel specifiek af van de producten, van de sector of van hoe vaak je een nieuwsbrief uitzendt. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"936460\" data-end=\"937420\">Evenzeer bij een blog.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"938100\" data-end=\"943120\">Je hebt blogs die je op een minuutje tijd gelezen hebt, maar je hebt ook blogs waar je tien minuten aan kunt lezen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"944280\" data-end=\"948940\">Dat hangt ervan af hoe technisch bijvoorbeeld je product is.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"949220\" data-end=\"949440\">Ja.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Maar voor social media denk ik sowieso kort.<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Ja.<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Kort en krachtig.<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"953340\" data-end=\"954060\">Kort en krachtig.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 15:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"954140\" data-end=\"954340\">Super.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"959860\" data-end=\"965320\">Ik kreeg gisteren ook nog de vraag van een andere mede-ondernemer die niet in de marketing werkt. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:06\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"965880\" data-end=\"967680\">Worden blogs eigenlijk nog wel gelezen?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"967860\" data-end=\"971040\">Is het nog interessant om blogs te schrijven voor op je website?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"972560\" data-end=\"973280\">Worden ze gelezen?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"973340\" data-end=\"974260\">Dat is een moeilijke vraag.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"975380\" data-end=\"976580\">Is het interessant? <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"976760\" data-end=\"977660\">Ja, zeker wel.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"977880\" data-end=\"979340\">Als je er keywords gaat in verwerken w<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"980140\" data-end=\"990260\">aardoor je automatisch beter wordt gezien, ook al wordt het niet per se gelezen, maar omdat het via de Google-algoritmes terug te vinden is, ga je sowieso wel hoger in je Google-ranking komen te staan. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"990520\" data-end=\"992760\">Net omdat die zoektermen er gewoon in verwerkt zijn.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"992760\" data-end=\"998400\">Omdat Google het herkent als een website die het probleem van de surfer kan oplossen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"998840\" data-end=\"1002100\">En daardoor ben je een goede website voor Google en gaan ze je hoger plaatsen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1002820\" data-end=\"1005540\">Dus dat is sowieso wel interessant, omdat je website dan bovenaan staat. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1006020\" data-end=\"1009260\">En een surfer gaat dan gewoon op je website klikken.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1009600\" data-end=\"1011740\">Of op \u00e9\u00e9n van de websites klikken die bovenaan staat.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1012300\" data-end=\"1013960\">Dus de kans wordt alleen maar groter dat ze op je klikken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1014100\" data-end=\"1014640\">Ik zal het zo zeggen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1015480\" data-end=\"1017960\">Dus het blijft anyway wel interessant. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:58\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1018220\" data-end=\"1018960\">Alleen daarom al.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 16:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1019380\" data-end=\"1026960\">En ik denk ook wel, als je dan kwalitatieve blogs kunt aanbieden, die ook effectief het probleem van de surfer kunnen helpen, o<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1028200\" data-end=\"1029700\">f op z&#8217;n minst inspireren o<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1029960\" data-end=\"1031700\">f een idee te geven van, ok\u00e9, dat ga ik ermee doen, d<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:12\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1032260\" data-end=\"1035200\">an word je sowieso ook wel een beetje als een expert gezien.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1035260\" data-end=\"1036599\">Of een kwalitatief bureau gezien. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1037020\" data-end=\"1037700\">Of eender wat. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1039579\" data-end=\"1041099\">Vanuit het oogpunt van de surfer wel.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1042220\" data-end=\"1045800\">Dus ja, het is voor beide eigenlijk wel een meerwaarde.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: J<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1045800\" data-end=\"1049040\">a, dus zeker niet iets om over te slaan in de marketing mix.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Ik zou het afraden.<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1051560\" data-end=\"1051800\">Top.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1052440\" data-end=\"1055040\">En hoe belangrijk is de kwaliteit van de blogs die je schrijft?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:35\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1055120\" data-end=\"1056140\">Is daar een richtlijn voor?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1056220\" data-end=\"1057280\">Hoe lang moeten die zijn?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:<span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1058280\" data-end=\"1060900\">Ik denk dat dat heel veel van sector tot sector varieert.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1061540\" data-end=\"1063960\">En ook zeker of je diensten of producten aanbiedt.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1064380\" data-end=\"1066960\">Ik denk dat daar heel veel kan in vari\u00ebren. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1067100\" data-end=\"1068440\">En dat er ook geen goed of slecht in is.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 17:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1068920\" data-end=\"1078020\">Ik merk uit eigen ervaring, de blogs die ik voor mijn eigen klanten schreef, zijn heel vaak blogs van vijf, zeshonderd woorden.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1079640\" data-end=\"1081700\">Zoiets steekt uiteindelijk niet op honderd woorden.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1082500\" data-end=\"1084120\">Dus daar kan heel veel mee gespeeld worden.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:05\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1085180\" data-end=\"1095220\">Het is ook afhankelijk van de link die je dan ook legt tussen je blog die je bijvoorbeeld op je website publiceert en dan de aandacht die je daar ook aan geeft op je social media bijvoorbeeld.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1095700\" data-end=\"1098440\">Je kunt ook een blog schrijven die je publiceert op je website en that&#8217;s it. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1098440\" data-end=\"1100900\">En dan hopen dat de surfer 1.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:21\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1100900\" data-end=\"1102680\">op je website gaat terechtkomen en 2.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:23\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1102880\" data-end=\"1104320\">ook je blog nog eens gaat lezen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1105140\" data-end=\"1112540\">Maar je kunt ook een blog schrijven, publiceren op je website en dan anderzijds op je social media gaan zeggen ik heb een blog geschreven over dat of dat.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1113380\" data-end=\"1118680\">Waardoor mensen die je social media of je post op social media hebben gezien dan gaan doorklikken naar.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1120240\" data-end=\"1122740\">En dat is dan eigenlijk ook een beetje het belang van copywriting.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1122960\" data-end=\"1134160\">Als je bijvoorbeeld zoiets doet en je schrijft een blogpost of een caption of je publiceert een post op social media over een blog die je hebt geschreven dat je dan daar ook wel je copywriting gaat toepassen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 18:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1135720\" data-end=\"1140160\">Copywriting is een beetje het wervend schrijven zonder dat de lezer het effectief doorheeft.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:03\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1142520\" data-end=\"1148000\">Dus je gaat proberen om de lezer een bepaalde actie te laten doen zonder dat die het effectief doorheeft dat je dat probeert.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1148700\" data-end=\"1164140\">Als je daar dan heel veel aandacht aan besteedt aan copywriting dat je daar een goede call to action hebt in je caption of in je post op social media gaat het er wel kunnen voor zorgen dat je ook meer verkeer naar je website en naar je blog kunt verwerken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1164980\" data-end=\"1165680\">Of kunt verkrijgen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:27\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1167060\" data-end=\"1170340\">Dus daar loopt dan ook wel weer een beetje het belang van copywriting.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1172060\" data-end=\"1174480\">Om door te trekken over verschillende kanalen hier.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:35\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1174500\" data-end=\"1177920\">Ja, en effectiever voor gaan zorgen dat ze het niet per se doorhebben.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1178560\" data-end=\"1182880\">Dus dat je ze mee kunt krijgen in je verhaal en niet per se in de call to action.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1183860\" data-end=\"1185760\">Dat is dan ook weer het ding van storytelling. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1186100\" data-end=\"1189280\">Dat je het verhaal op verschillende manieren kunt brengen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1189560\" data-end=\"1191860\">Verschillende plaatsen, ergens op je website, social media, e<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1192020\" data-end=\"1193060\">ventueel zelfs offline. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1193920\" data-end=\"1196960\">Maar dat het dan toch overkoepelend \u00e9\u00e9n mooi verhaal wordt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1197040\" data-end=\"1197860\">Dat is een beetje de bedoeling.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 19:58\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1198380\" data-end=\"1199360\">Het is niet makkelijk.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0 Dat is zelfs moeilijk.<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:<span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:05\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1204900\" data-end=\"1208360\">Je sprak net ook over een beetje lokale zoekwoorden.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1208360\" data-end=\"1214180\">Is het nog interessant om, zoals vroeger werd gedaan, local pages te maken op je website?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1214580\" data-end=\"1218260\">Als je bijvoorbeeld een loodgieter bent die in heel Vlaanderen werkt, d<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1218460\" data-end=\"1223200\">at je zegt van loodgieter Gent, loodgieter Limburg, loodgieter Hasselt.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1223820\" data-end=\"1224920\">Om daar mee te werken?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:25\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1225400\" data-end=\"1230060\">Ja, ook daar is het wel weer dat Google daar ook een goede variant op gevonden heeft s<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1230460\" data-end=\"1231580\">inds een paar jaar.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1231740\" data-end=\"1232600\">Google My Business. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1233440\" data-end=\"1234620\">Ook iets wat ik zelf gebruik.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:35\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1234720\" data-end=\"1237360\">Ook iets wat ik altijd tegen mijn klanten zeg om wel in te stellen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:37\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1237360\" data-end=\"1241360\">Op zich is dat ook maar een paar minuutjes werk. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1241840\" data-end=\"1242980\">Maar het kan wel lonen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1243640\" data-end=\"1245420\">Bijvoorbeeld inderdaad een lokale loodgieter.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1246800\" data-end=\"1254160\">Ik denk niet dat het per se nodig is om het voorbeeld van een loodgieter om dan over heel Vlaanderen elke keer een local page te gaan opzetten.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1254900\" data-end=\"1257740\">Ik denk dat het eerder heel lokaal kan via Google My Business.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 20:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1258580\" data-end=\"1269040\">Op een paar minuutjes tijd kun je het adres, telefoonnummer of contactgegevens, je kunt foto&#8217;s, openingsuren, dat soort zaken er allemaal aan toevoegen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1269180\" data-end=\"1272560\">Waardoor je ook \u00e9\u00e9n zichtbaar gaat zijn op Google Maps. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:14\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1273600\" data-end=\"1277120\">Dus stel ik in Paal in Limburg, ik heb een loodgieter nodig.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1277640\" data-end=\"1279260\">Ik typ in loodgieter op Google.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1279620\" data-end=\"1287860\">Ik kan op Google Maps kijken en dan krijg ik bijvoorbeeld alle lokale loodgieters in Paal, Beringen en een iets grotere omgeving te zien krijgen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1287860\" data-end=\"1293000\">Maar door je Google My Business in te stellen, ben je \u00e9\u00e9n, dus zichtbaar op die Google Maps.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:34\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1293760\" data-end=\"1298320\">Maar twee, ga je ook makkelijk benaderbaar zijn omdat direct al je gegevens erbij opstaan. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:39\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1298740\" data-end=\"1303080\">Dus ik zou dat eerder, vandaag de dag, 2024, eerder dat doen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:44\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1303980\" data-end=\"1305400\">Dat even in orde brengen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:46\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1306160\" data-end=\"1307660\">En ja, local pages iets minder.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1308500\" data-end=\"1310380\">Maar ook dat is mijn persoonlijke ervaring. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:51\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1310520\" data-end=\"1313540\">Ik denk ook niet dat er per se een goed of slecht in is.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1314760\" data-end=\"1316240\">Maar dat is mijn gevoel en mijn ervaring.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1316240\" data-end=\"1318500\">En dat breng ik ook altijd over naar mijn klanten.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 21:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1318720\" data-end=\"1329540\">En ik merk ook wel, zodra mijn klanten effectief hun Google My Business, mochten ze dat nog niet gedaan hebben, instellen, dat ze bijvoorbeeld ook wel merken dat ze meer websitekliks krijgen.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1331320\" data-end=\"1336920\">Het verlaagt natuurlijk ook de drempel om iemand te contacteren met wie je natuurlijk meteen kan bellen.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1337540\" data-end=\"1337960\">Ja, exact. <\/span><\/span>Ook omdat je dan de zekerheid hebt van, je woont of de loodgieter is hier maar twee straten verder, bijvoorbeeld.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1343740\" data-end=\"1344360\">Ja, ja.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1344360\" data-end=\"1348420\">Dus dat maakt het allemaal veel toegankelijker.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:29\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1348940\" data-end=\"1349940\">De drempel wordt verlaagd.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1350240\" data-end=\"1352200\">Hoe minder moeite mensen moeten doen, hoe beter.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:32\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1352340\" data-end=\"1353200\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Exact, exact.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:34\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1353640\" data-end=\"1357280\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Het schrijven van blogs vraagt natuurlijk best wel veel werk.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1357820\" data-end=\"1362060\">Er zijn heel goede freelance copywriters zoals jij, zoals andere mensen in The Content Hive.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1362640\" data-end=\"1367200\">Maar heb je tips voor bedrijven die dat toch zelf, in-house willen gaan aanpakken?<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:48\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1367700\" data-end=\"1372740\">Hoeveel blogs heb je nodig om, hoeveel moet je er op een maand schrijven bijvoorbeeld?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:<span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 22:53\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1372740\" data-end=\"1379480\">Ik denk, een echte hoeveelheid per maand is nagelang de sector en het bedrijf zelf.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:00\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1379920\" data-end=\"1385260\">Het hangt er ook vanaf, zoals ik net al zei, als je er dan ook een beetje commotie rond cre\u00ebert op social media.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:06\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1385580\" data-end=\"1393160\">Het kan bijvoorbeeld zijn dat je, ik zeg maar iets doorheen de tijd verspreidt, vijf, zestal social media posts gaat maken over \u00e9\u00e9n blog. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1393300\" data-end=\"1395040\">Die altijd gaan verwijzen, van lees mijn blog.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1395680\" data-end=\"1396930\">Continu diezelfde link gaan terugleggen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1397900\" data-end=\"1405920\">In plaats van effectief zes, zeven blogs te gaan schrijven, moest je social media minder gaan gebruiken, dan kan het natuurlijk wel relevant zijn dat je iets meer blogs gaat schrijven. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1406480\" data-end=\"1416080\">Uit persoonlijke ervaring heb ik ook al wel gemerkt dat het vaak heel makkelijk is om altijd via een min of meer vergelijkbare structuur te gaan werken in je blog zelf.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:37\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1416720\" data-end=\"1424480\">Dat maakt het voor jezelf om het te schrijven veel gemakkelijker, omdat je zelf al gaat weten van, ik zit nu hier, dit is nu hetgeen wat hier moet gaan komen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1425020\" data-end=\"1429180\">Er komt een automatisme eigenlijk voor jezelf, maar ook voor de lezer.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1429180\" data-end=\"1435540\">De lezer die je dan echt wel volgt, gaat ook wel weten wat hij of zij kan verwachten.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:56\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1436140\" data-end=\"1437440\">Er is dus een herkenbaarheid.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:58\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1437660\" data-end=\"1439140\">Een herkenbaarheid is online altijd goed.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 23:59\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1439400\" data-end=\"1440060\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Ja, inderdaad.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:01\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1441440\" data-end=\"1443760\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Dus ja, dat is een vaste structuur.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:04\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1444240\" data-end=\"1445820\">Echt in hoeverre, het is moeilijk om te zeggen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:08\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1447520\" data-end=\"1456000\">Ik weet bijvoorbeeld, ik mik zelf meestal op \u00e9\u00e9n blog per maand, gecombineerd met misschien een nieuwsbrief, een tweetal nieuwsbrieven.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1457680\" data-end=\"1459860\">Dat is voor mij een beetje de richtlijn.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1459900\" data-end=\"1460720\">Het minimum, ja.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:21\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1460960\" data-end=\"1464740\">Maar ook die nieuwsbrieven zijn hetzelfde, het verhaal is ook altijd een vergelijkbare structuur.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1465640\" data-end=\"1468940\">Er zijn een paar templates waarmee gewerkt wordt.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:29\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1469300\" data-end=\"1475100\">Je gaat niet elke maand opnieuw dezelfde template gebruiken, maar je gaat die wel om de zoveel tijd een keer willen laten terugkomen. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:36\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1476400\" data-end=\"1478680\">Inhoudelijk, puur textueel, is dat natuurlijk helemaal anders.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1479780\" data-end=\"1483300\">Maar dan heb je wel een houvast en een soort kapstok.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"font-bold\">\u00a0<\/div><div><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:43\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1483380\" data-end=\"1485080\">Ja, een vaste basis om van te werken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1485080\" data-end=\"1486220\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Ja, dat is wel handig.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1488900\" data-end=\"1493300\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Ik rond eigenlijk iedere podcastaflevering af met dezelfde vraag.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 24:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1493560\" data-end=\"1497480\">Dat is de vraag wat het beste stuk content is dat je de laatste tijd hebt gezien. <\/span><\/span>Dus bij deze vraag ik dat ook aan jou.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:01\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1501220\" data-end=\"1510160\">Ik denk, omdat ik heel veel met social media bezig ben, dat ik daar ook vooral de advertenties bekijk.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:11\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1511020\" data-end=\"1512760\">Ik vind het daar op zich bol.com, d<\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:14\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1513640\" data-end=\"1515900\">at is misschien een clich\u00e9, maar wel een hele goeie.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: <\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1516040\" data-end=\"1516680\">Ja, tuurlijk.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:17\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1516940\" data-end=\"1519080\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Zeker al in 2024.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:19\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1519240\" data-end=\"1524140\">Ze zijn heel vaak bezig met controversie en dat mag niet en dat soort zaken. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:26\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1525760\" data-end=\"1527440\">Zij gooien daar een beetje met de pet naar. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:30\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1529840\" data-end=\"1531220\">Dat vind ik dan net positief.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:31\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1531420\" data-end=\"1534220\">Dat bewonder ik een beetje, omdat ze het net durven en ze doen het gewoon.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:35\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1534840\" data-end=\"1537020\">Ze gaan ook niemand persoonlijk viseren. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:37\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1537260\" data-end=\"1538180\">Dat hoeft ook zeker niet.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:38\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1538380\" data-end=\"1539540\">Dat kan niet de bedoeling zijn.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1539540\" data-end=\"1542020\">Maar ze gaan het wel in het algemeen breder. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:42\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1542020\" data-end=\"1544540\">Ze gaan toch wel de controversie een beetje uitlokken.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:45\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1545440\" data-end=\"1547960\">Op het randje van dit kan, dat kan niet.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:48\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1548180\" data-end=\"1549280\">Ze gaan er toch wel wat op zoeken.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Die grens op zoeken.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:50\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1550040\" data-end=\"1550560\">Ja, exact.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:52\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1552020\" data-end=\"1553400\">Dat vind ik wel, dat moet kunnen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:55\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1554680\" data-end=\"1557020\">Het is er maar steeds minder en minder vandaag de dag. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 25:58\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1558060\" data-end=\"1560120\">Maar dat moet kunnen en dat moet ook zo blijven. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:01\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1560720\" data-end=\"1563680\">Dat is ook iets wat ik zelf wel probeer, want dat is zeker niet gemakkelijk.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:05\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1564580\" data-end=\"1568620\">Het is een heel dunne grens van dit kan nog en dat had ik beter niet gedaan. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:09\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1569100\" data-end=\"1574720\">Maar ik probeer het zelf ook wel, bij de content die ik voor mijn klanten cre\u00eber, in de mate van het mogelijke.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:15\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1574860\" data-end=\"1576440\">Afhankelijk van de sector ook uiteraard.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1577620\" data-end=\"1579260\">Probeer ik dat ook wel droog te trekken. <\/span><\/span>En dat is wel zo&#8217;n beetje een inspiratieboom op dat vlak, Bol.com.<\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:23\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1583360\" data-end=\"1584020\">Ja, zeker.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:24\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1584400\" data-end=\"1586740\">Ja, ik vind Bol.com ook een zeer mooi voorbeeld.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:28\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1588000\" data-end=\"1593260\">Maar we moeten er wel bij kaderen, die hebben een enorm budget om heel veel video&#8217;s op te nemen.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:33\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1593360\" data-end=\"1593460\">Ja.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:34\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1594100\" data-end=\"1599660\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: Om een heel tegendraadse TikTok-strategie uit te bouwen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:40\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1600440\" data-end=\"1606580\">En dat is niet iets wat je als externe freelancer snel durft doen bij een klant. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:47\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1606720\" data-end=\"1608300\">We zouden het eigenlijk wel moeten voorstellen.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:49\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1608720\" data-end=\"1613140\">Maar dat is veel makkelijker als je in-house een team hebt die gewoon gekke dingen doet. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:54\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1613520\" data-end=\"1615680\">En ze hebben waarschijnlijk ook een super jong team. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 26:57\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1616900\" data-end=\"1621640\">Maar het is wel een tof voorbeeld om inspiratie op te doen en te zien hoe dat anders kan.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:02\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1621640\" data-end=\"1629800\">En hoe dat je niet per se met de mainstream media mee moet glijden en ergens erin moet verdwijnen.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:10\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1630160\" data-end=\"1632860\">Dus we mogen zeker wat meer inspiratie uithalen.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:13\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1632980\" data-end=\"1633120\">Exact.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div><div class=\"font-bold\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>:\u00a0<span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:14\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1634260\" data-end=\"1634600\">Top.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1635520\" data-end=\"1635840\">Super.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:16\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1636120\" data-end=\"1638340\">Heel erg bedankt dat je hier aanwezig was in de podcast.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div class=\"mt-4\">\u00a0<\/div><p><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:18\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1638440\" data-end=\"1639320\"><strong>Micha\u00ebl<\/strong>: Bedankt dat ik mocht komen.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\"><strong>Eveline<\/strong>: I<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:20\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1639720\" data-end=\"1640880\">k hoop dat je het een beetje leuk vond.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"opacity-80 text-sm\" data-timestamp=\"\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:21\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1641300\" data-end=\"1642200\">Bedankt voor je inzichten. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"cursor-pointer group\" title=\"Play starting at 27:22\"><span class=\"group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5\" data-start=\"1642380\" data-end=\"1646660\">We gaan zeker alle tips met SEO-keywords gaan toepassen.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a191f08 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4a191f08\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-62c1d207 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"62c1d207\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5242063b elementor-align-center elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"5242063b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" 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